Born again Warning: You are not logged in. Your IP address will be publicly visible if you make any edits. If you log in or create an account, your edits will be attributed to your username, along with other benefits.Anti-spam check. Do not fill this in! ===Historicity=== Scholars of the [[historical Jesus]], who attempt to ascertain how closely the stories of Jesus match the historical events they are based on, generally treat Jesus's conversation with Nicodemus in [[John 3]] with skepticism. It details what is presumably a private conversation between Jesus and Nicodemus, with none of the disciples seemingly attending, making it unclear how a record of this conversation was acquired. In addition, the conversation is recorded in no other ancient Christian source other than John and works based on John.<ref name="jesusbefore" /> According to [[Bart Ehrman]], the larger issue is that the same problem English translations of the Bible have with the Greek {{lang|grc|ἄνωθεν}} ({{transliteration|grc|ánōtʰen}}) is a problem in the [[Aramaic language]] as well: there is no single word in Aramaic that means both 'again' and 'from above', yet the conversation rests on Nicodemus making this misunderstanding.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Biblical Errancy: The "Born Again" Dialogue In the Gospel of John |url=https://etb-biblical-errancy.blogspot.com/2012/04/born-again-dialogue-in-gospel-of-john.html |access-date=11 September 2019 |website=Biblical Errancy}}</ref> As the conversation was between two Jews in Jerusalem, where Aramaic was the native language, there is no reason to think that they would have spoken in Greek.<ref name="jesusbefore" /> This implies that even if based on a real conversation, the author of John heavily modified it to include Greek wordplay and idiom.<ref name="jesusbefore">{{Cite book |last=Ehrman |first=Bart |title=Jesus Before the Gospels: How the Earliest Christians Remembered, Changed, and Invented Their Stories of the Savior |publisher=[[HarperOne]] |year=2016 |isbn=978-0062285201 |pages=108–109 |author-link=Bart Ehrman}}</ref> Summary: Please note that all contributions to Christianpedia may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here. You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource (see Christianpedia:Copyrights for details). Do not submit copyrighted work without permission! Cancel Editing help (opens in new window) Discuss this page