Incest Warning: You are not logged in. Your IP address will be publicly visible if you make any edits. If you log in or create an account, your edits will be attributed to your username, along with other benefits.Anti-spam check. Do not fill this in! ====Between adult siblings==== {{main|Sibling incest}} One of the most public cases of adult sibling incest in the 2000s is the case of [[Cases of Stübing v. Germany|Patrick Stübing and Susan Karolewski]], a brother{{ndash}}sister couple from Germany. Because of violent behavior on the part of his father, Patrick was taken in at the age of 3 by foster parents, who adopted him later. At the age of 23 he learned about his biological parents, contacted his mother, and met her and his then 16-year-old sister Susan for the first time. The now-adult Patrick moved in with his birth family shortly thereafter. After their mother died suddenly six months later, the siblings became intimately close, and had their first child together in 2001. By 2004, they had had four children together: Eric, Sarah, Nancy, and Sofia. The public nature of their relationship, and the repeated [[prosecution]]s and jail time they have served as a result, have caused some in Germany to question whether incest between consenting adults should be punished at all. An article about them in ''[[Der Spiegel]]'' states that the couple are happy together. According to court records, the first three children have mental and physical disabilities, and have been placed in foster care.<ref name="spiegel" /> In April 2012, at the [[European Court of Human Rights]], Patrick Stübing lost his case that the conviction violated his right to a private and family life.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/13/world/europe/germany-incest-court/index.html?hpt=hp_bn2|title=German incest couple lose European court case |website=[[CNN]]|date=13 April 2012}}</ref><ref name="ECtHR judgment">[http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view.asp?action=html&documentId=905957&portal=hbkm&table=F69A27FD8FB86142BF01C1166DEA398649 Judgment] on the ''Stübing vs. Germany'' case. [[European Court of Human Rights]].</ref> On 24 September 2014, the [[German Ethics Council]] recommended that the government abolish laws criminalizing incest between siblings, arguing that such bans impinge upon citizens.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/09/24/german-ethics-council-incest-is-a-right.html |title=German Ethics Council: Incest Is a Right |website=The Daily Beast |date=24 September 2014 |access-date=5 October 2014}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11119062/Incest-a-fundamental-right-German-committee-says.html |archive-url=https://ghostarchive.org/archive/20220111/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11119062/Incest-a-fundamental-right-German-committee-says.html |archive-date=11 January 2022 |url-access=subscription |url-status=live |title=Incest a 'fundamental right', German committee says |newspaper=The Telegraph |date=24 September 2014 |access-date=5 October 2014}}{{cbignore}}</ref> Some societies differentiate between full-sibling and half-sibling relations.<ref>Roger S. Bagnall, Bruce W. Frier, ''The Demography of Roman Egypt'', 2006, p.128</ref><ref>[[Roy Porter]], [[Mikuláš Teich]], ''Sexual Knowledge, Sexual Science: The History of Attitudes to Sexuality'', 1994, p.239</ref> Summary: Please note that all contributions to Christianpedia may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here. You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource (see Christianpedia:Copyrights for details). Do not submit copyrighted work without permission! Cancel Editing help (opens in new window) Discuss this page